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whack on October 04, 2013, 10:12:39 PM
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They are like, constantly at odds with each other. And I am like @@
I don't even know what "hippies" originate from.

Rerun0369 on October 04, 2013, 10:48:11 PM
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GooglyMooglyCplType on October 04, 2013, 11:03:19 PM
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Hippies were from the 1960s...they just did a lot of hallucinogens and dressed in a certain way and it was a movement to listen to music and get out of your mind. Im sure there were hippies drafted to Vietnam so the they arent really two things that oppose each other or have anything to do with each other besides in this context. I guess during the war the people who treated the soldiers coming home like shit were part of the movement, but i dont think that they actively clash with each other. Not all soldiers are pro war and not all hippies are  completely anti war and the music of the movement was something everyone listened to.
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First Strike Deadly on October 05, 2013, 01:44:01 AM
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I'm not American; I didn't learn anything about hippies and war!
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VJmagnum on October 06, 2013, 09:32:24 AM
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I don't think hippies and the people in the military didn't get a long... they had a lot in common... During Vietnam hippies used drugs and people in the military used drugs, hippies liked sex and we all know men in the military will fuck anything... hippies like rock music... fuck everyone likes rock music... hippies were for peace not war and I'd say the people who served in Vietnam hated war more than the hippies.. think of the roots of the short timers calendar... hippies had long girl hair military people wanted long hair but it was against regs for the military... I think you are confusing hippies and politicians not the military... go to the VFW and talk to the Vietnam vets... they will give you true scoop...
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gear queer deluxe on October 06, 2013, 01:58:44 PM
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If you want a example of a modern hippy, just watch the rob riggle daily show Berkeley skit where the chick says agree's to "well if there wasn't any cops, there wouldn't be any crime" thing and she says "potentially".

To me, hippies are everything the whole post modern, subjectivist, "we all have our own truths" bullshit personified. The mandatory tolerance, victimist, participation trophy,  "its not me, it's my syndrome" crap.

Fuck hippies.

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If you want a example of a modern hippy, just watch the rob riggle daily show Berkeley skit where the chick says agree's to "well if there wasn't any cops, there wouldn't be any crime" thing and she says "potentially".

To me, hippies are everything the whole post modern, subjectivist, "we all have our own truths" bullshit personified. The mandatory tolerance, victimist, participation trophy,  "its not me, it's my syndrome" crap.

Fuck hippies.

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A case could be made that the hippies are why we have an all volunteer military


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gear queer deluxe on October 06, 2013, 03:26:36 PM
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If you want a example of a modern hippy, just watch the rob riggle daily show Berkeley skit where the chick says agree's to "well if there wasn't any cops, there wouldn't be any crime" thing and she says "potentially".

To me, hippies are everything the whole post modern, subjectivist, "we all have our own truths" bullshit personified. The mandatory tolerance, victimist, participation trophy,  "its not me, it's my syndrome" crap.

Fuck hippies.

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A case could be made that the hippies are why we have an all volunteer military


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We dont. Its called selective services and every 18yo male gets that letter in the mail unless you done go and enlist first and beat them to the punch. Wait for a legitimate war and tell me it's voluntary. You will be doing so from an IP in Canada.

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You have asked a complex question. It is hippies vs politicos really. The two were very diferent in the begining of thier "movements" but the line between the two began to blur due to some sharred belifes and similar apperance. Both could be found at the "peace" protests in the 60's and both groups got refered to as "Hippies" and still are to the point that there is little if any line anymore.
The difference was.....

Hippies-
believed in utopian comunes were they could drop out of society, live as one with nature, do drugs, love(have sex) with everyone, and be at complete Peace with the universe. They did not hate anything our act out much and practiced non-violence if they did.

Politicos-
These are the assholes the military hates. They were self titled "revolutionaries" and "resistence fighters" they did things like throw dog shit at returning soldiers, make calls to the familys of KIA soldiers and tell them how glad they were that thier son was killed, blow up campus and government buildings, and rob banks to fund thier "movements". They pretty much hated everyone that did not share thier views.

These are some pretty simplistic descriptions but hopefully it gives you some idea. Both groups are somewhere between unrealistic and totaly insane.





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Are we talking about past hippies or present ones? Present hippies are fucking retarded. These are the people that think George Bush planned 9/11. They also generally hate all law enforcement, which is usually because they're probably doing something illegal, and not because they're victims of police brutality.


Past hippies were opposed to a war that most of the people fighting it didn't believe in. Yah they were kinda dirty and shit but it's not like a lot of them stayed that way, vast majority didn't. Most past hippies are fully functioning members of society today, and aren't anti-military in the slightest, at least as a group.

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Politicos-
These are the assholes the military hates. They were self titled "revolutionaries" and "resistence fighters" they did things like throw dog shit at returning soldiers, make calls to the familys of KIA soldiers and tell them how glad they were that thier son was killed, blow up campus and government buildings, and rob banks to fund thier "movements". They pretty much hated everyone that did not share thier views.



Weather Underground.

Also sounds a lot like the militant tolerance types of now.

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I thought Hipsters were the new Hippies?

Which group films cops and cry injustice when they ask them to stop filming them.

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I thought Hipsters were the new Hippies?

Which group films cops and cry injustice when they ask them to stop filming them.

Naaaah.

Hippies came by their weird clothing and drug use honestly. They honestly just didn't give a damn about conventional clean-cut styling. The activist sorts were earnestly concerned about the war.

Hipsters are ironic. Those lumberjack beards, waxed mustaches, knickerbockers, grandpa glasses, headgear, suspenders, they are CONSCIOUSLY looking ridiculous on PURPOSE, so if you give them the sideeye, joke's on you because they know it's aesthetically displeasing, so when you give the response, they've poked at your bourgeois sensibilities.

It's so full of studied artifice. I'd much rather deal with an actual Punk or Goth or Skaters (or my tribe. Geeks and Nerds) because they are genuinely into the look, the interests, the music, whatever it is that concerns the group.

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Are we talking about past hippies or present ones?

I was talking about the 60's. What we genericly refer to as Hippies now is the Bastard offspring off those two groups plus others.
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I don't hate hippies, and I'd like to think that most hippies don't hate me.

The hippie movement was a counterculture thing - it questioned a lot of traditional values such as materialism, Christianity, monogamy, attitudes on drugs, etc. They weren't kidding when they talked about Flower Power; they believed that if everyone could see past their petty differences and see each other as human beings, there would be love and peace instead of war. It's utopian, but it's a poignant view. These hippies did view the military as tools to enforce the status quo, but they didn't hate the people in the military. They viewed them more with pity and sympathy as otherwise innocent people used by the powerful to do bad things. While I mostly disagree with their worldview, (There are a lot of great things about our culture - for one, it's been proven to be the best way to get shit done) it's a relatively civil disagreement.

The people I actively dislike are probably better described as militant revolutionaries. You might have known the type - they're the ones who call troops baby-killers, think that 9/11 was committed by the New World Order, and believe that Republicans are all woman-hating fundamentalists who are the only people keeping the United States from becoming a glorious worker's paradise, free from exploitation and hardship. Instead of politely disagreeing with my worldview, as hippies are wont to do, the militant revolutionaries hate everything that I stand for and believe, and they see my very existence as being opposed to their ideas. They're right. I don't give a fuck about what a bunch of hippies do in San Francisco. They do their own thing, and it's great if they find happiness outside of the norms of our culture. The militant revolutionaries, on the other hand, are actively trying to destroy my way of life. And yep, I have a problem with that.
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Instead of politely disagreeing with my worldview, as hippies are wont to do, the militant revolutionaries hate everything that I stand for and believe, and they see my very existence as being opposed to their ideas. They're right. I don't give a fuck about what a bunch of hippies do in San Francisco. They do their own thing, and it's great if they find happiness outside of the norms of our culture. The militant revolutionaries, on the other hand, are actively trying to destroy my way of life. And yep, I have a problem with that.

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