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brooklyn on June 06, 2013, 09:47:16 PM
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http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/06/06/house-votes-to-eliminate-service-camo-patterns.html?comp=1198882887570&rank=1

Thank the Army and choosing that god awful fucking piece of shit they call a combat utility and blowing 4 million plus tons more.
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You mean thank the muhweens for starting this bullshit? At least the ACU as a uniform is functional, the air farce's shit is so bad they get issues army uniforms for deploying down range.  UCP, MARPAT, CADPAT and navy AOR are all the same pattern, just different colors.

Highly doubtful that if they choose one pattern it will be MARPAT for one simple reason, all the money the army just spent on their research this go around.  There's a reason why the army chose different colors than MARPAT last go around.  MARPAT performs terribly when viewed under IR.  UCP performed the best, one of the reasons it was chosen.

If we all end up switching to the same uniforms, you can probably guarantee that it will be whatever wins (or already won) the current trial.

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Functional for what?  And how much has the army spent?  MC spent like 800k and had some scout snipers pick that shit out at home depot.


 Bring back dress blues combat.[/size]


Marine Corps didn't do shit to get MARPAT ball rolling, though. Shit was so cheap because we bought it from the Canadian's CADPAT.




Also, all this shit is irrelevant for us since the Marine Corps will be absorbed by the Army in 10 years anyway.

Sh-tGrin on June 06, 2013, 09:51:59 PM
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First Strike Deadly on June 07, 2013, 01:19:13 AM
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MARPAT performs terribly when viewed under IR.  UCP performed the best, one of the reasons it was chosen.

Guess what?  That and a buck fifty will get you a cup of coffee.  UCP was a miserable failure, and this is not a fact that can be disputed.


stitch1870 on June 07, 2013, 01:24:15 AM
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honestly as an Airman I would be okay with that. We don't need camo to turn a wrench on a jet or load bombs. What we do need is something functional that will keep us warm in the winter and prevent us from drowning in our own sweat in the summer. The current ABU does neither.


In other news, I kind of hope that we all go to MARPAT so I can drink the butthurt tears of Mehreens



Several years ago when I thought the cream corn was the next best thing since pr0nz you might've. But no one's pride in uniform and preventing others from using a better product is worth any servicemember's life because of a shitty camo pattern. LOOKIN AT YOU AMOS AND KENT.
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motohooah on June 07, 2013, 04:21:05 AM
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MARPAT performs terribly when viewed under IR.  UCP performed the best, one of the reasons it was chosen.

Guess what?  That and a buck fifty will get you a cup of coffee.  UCP was a miserable failure, and this is not a fact that can be disputed.

Go back and read my post, I'm not disagreeing with you.  UCP is a massive failure and every soldier hates them, but alas its our uniform and what we have to wear.

UCP spawned from MARPAT, MARPAT spawned from CADPAT and CADPAT spawned from some pattern that NATICK threw in the trash back in like 2001.  It's all just a giant circle.

Like I said, there's a reason why UCP was chosen, there is not enough color separation in MARPAT when viewed under IR making everyone wearing it look like a big black blob instead of blending in.   The Army's logic being that at least half of our operations being performed at night, we need camo for that.  That's all man, not defending UCP, just setting up the justification for my hypothesis.

That's why I'm postulating now that if indeed all the branches assume one uniform, the pattern(s) will probably be the patterns that won the current trial.

Edit-there's a pretty in depth post about how all this came to be if you're interested.  So far they've posted 3 out of 4 parts of it.

http://www.hyperstealth.com/camo-improvement/

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This is our stupid ass government doing shit to say they did shit.

Instead of perhaps blasting the US Army for stupidity instead one size fits all punishment. SF/SoF are still going to wear different uniforms just because.

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Not quite. The House Armed Services Committee voted for it as part of the 2014 National Defense Authorization Act, but the NDAA still needs to go before the full House and the Senate before it becomes law, and who knows what changes will be made to it between now and then

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HardCoreTurtle on June 07, 2013, 07:57:09 AM
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We can already assume that whatever the Army decides is what all the branches will get, considering congress likes to play favorites. I just hope the Army picks the kryptek camo design for their new uniforms.

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Functional for what?  And how much has the army spent?  MC spent like 800k and had some scout snipers pick that shit out at home depot.


 Bring back dress blues combat.[/size]

The ACU, as in Army Combat Uniform, not the Universal Camouflage Pattern.

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honestly as an Airman I would be okay with that. We don't need camo to turn a wrench on a jet or load bombs. What we do need is something functional that will keep us warm in the winter and prevent us from drowning in our own sweat in the summer. The current ABU does neither.


In other news, I kind of hope that we all go to MARPAT so I can drink the butthurt tears of Mehreens


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That's what the special kids were wearing when BDU's were the uniform. SF/SoF always gotta have their special thing and thus the big PX is always going to try to grab those coat tales.

It's pathetic that that US military branches are incapable of designing their own functional utility uniforms because some derps got super jelly of Marines when they were seen in something other than US Army hand me downs.
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http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/06/06/house-votes-to-eliminate-service-camo-patterns.html?comp=1198882887570&rank=1

Thank the Army and choosing that god awful fucking piece of shit they call a combat utility and blowing 4 million plus tons more.
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You mean thank the muhweens for starting this bullshit?  At least the ACU as a uniform is functional, the air farce's shit is so bad they get issues army uniforms for deploying down range.  UCP, MARPAT, CADPAT and navy AOR are all the same pattern, just different colors.

Highly doubtful that if they choose one pattern it will be MARPAT for one simple reason, all the money the army just spent on their research this go around.  There's a reason why the army chose different colors than MARPAT last go around.  MARPAT performs terribly when viewed under IR.  UCP performed the best, one of the reasons it was chosen.

If we all end up switching to the same uniforms, you can probably guarantee that it will be whatever wins (or already won) the current trial.

TL;dr thanks Obama!
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But really well in real life where the people we actually fight generally don't have reliable IR.[/size]
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http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/06/06/house-votes-to-eliminate-service-camo-patterns.html?comp=1198882887570&rank=1

Thank the Army and choosing that god awful fucking piece of shit they call a combat utility and blowing 4 million plus tons more.
[size=78%]

You mean thank the muhweens for starting this bullshit?  At least the ACU as a uniform is functional, the air farce's shit is so bad they get issues army uniforms for deploying down range.  UCP, MARPAT, CADPAT and navy AOR are all the same pattern, just different colors.

Highly doubtful that if they choose one pattern it will be MARPAT for one simple reason, all the money the army just spent on their research this go around.  There's a reason why the army chose different colors than MARPAT last go around.  MARPAT performs terribly when viewed under IR.  UCP performed the best, one of the reasons it was chosen.

If we all end up switching to the same uniforms, you can probably guarantee that it will be whatever wins (or already won) the current trial.

TL;dr thanks Obama!
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But really well in real life where the people we actually fight generally don't have reliable IR.[/size]

how about the fact that all these uniforms are tested and designed to be not picked up as easily by IR.....but guess what....then you guys get plastered in fucking IR tabs/squares/shit so that you are visible to each other when you are using IR.        "hey lets make a uniform to be invisible....then undo that with fucking glow squares!" 

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http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/06/06/house-votes-to-eliminate-service-camo-patterns.html?comp=1198882887570&rank=1

Thank the Army and choosing that god awful fucking piece of shit they call a combat utility and blowing 4 million plus tons more.
[size=78%]

You mean thank the muhweens for starting this bullshit?  At least the ACU as a uniform is functional, the air farce's shit is so bad they get issues army uniforms for deploying down range.  UCP, MARPAT, CADPAT and navy AOR are all the same pattern, just different colors.

Highly doubtful that if they choose one pattern it will be MARPAT for one simple reason, all the money the army just spent on their research this go around.  There's a reason why the army chose different colors than MARPAT last go around.  MARPAT performs terribly when viewed under IR.  UCP performed the best, one of the reasons it was chosen.

If we all end up switching to the same uniforms, you can probably guarantee that it will be whatever wins (or already won) the current trial.

TL;dr thanks Obama!
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But really well in real life where the people we actually fight generally don't have reliable IR.[/size]

how about the fact that all these uniforms are tested and designed to be not picked up as easily by IR.....but guess what....then you guys get plastered in fucking IR tabs/squares/shit so that you are visible to each other when you are using IR.        "hey lets make a uniform to be invisible....then undo that with fucking glow squares!"
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stitch1870 on June 09, 2013, 01:14:15 AM
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We chopped up our IR tabs so they were 1/2"x1/2", I'd rather have that FOF identifier if I ever had to call in night CAS given the USAF's track record.
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Billie E Goatis on June 09, 2013, 02:20:48 AM
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Not quite. The House Armed Services Committee voted for it as part of the 2014 National Defense Authorization Act, but the NDAA still needs to go before the full House and the Senate before it becomes law, and who knows what changes will be made to it between now and then

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And most things passed in the House or Senate commitees never get passed into law. I'm sure the armed service branch representatives are already calling their military-industry lobbiests to get on the phone with the congressmen.
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silverado_mick on June 09, 2013, 12:07:25 PM
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What, exactly, is wrong with multicam?  Shit works good everywhere I've seen it.  Even a little better than woodland MARPAT, to my eye anyway.  So we've gotta drop a whole bunch more money developing yet another camo pattern even though we currently have quite a bit of gear laying around in what is a really good cam scheme? 

I hope if they do actually go through with it that they take cues from the Corps at leats in the deign of the uniform.  ACU's are not at all as user friendly, functional, or comfortable as our cammies.  Dem velcro pockets...eeesh! 

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What, exactly, is wrong with multicam?  Shit works good everywhere I've seen it. 

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