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TallKing on January 03, 2013, 05:45:06 AM
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I must have missed an important memo about the change of what the blood stripe means, it is now to honor all fallen? Has anybody else heard this or seen this before? http://marines.com/history-heritage/timeline?articleId=TIMELINE_INNOVATIONS_1776_DRESS_BLUES?WT.mc_id=010213_DRESSBLUES_FB

StuckinNola on January 03, 2013, 05:53:48 AM
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Has anybody else heard this or seen this before?

Yes. 


Molecule Inc. on January 03, 2013, 06:07:57 AM
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just thought i'd leave this here:

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Several tales about the origins of Marine Corps uniform details and accoutrements — no matter how forcefully insisted upon by drill instructors and noncommissioned officers across the service — simply are not borne out by historical fact, said Owen Conner, curator for Uniforms and Heraldry at the National Museum of the Marine Corps. Instead, they can often be traced back to recruiters.

“A lot of it goes back to the early 20th century, around World War I, when they were trying to get the Marine Corps’ numbers up,” Conner said. Histories were embellished. Symbolic connections were invented. Call it branding.

Perhaps the most famous uniform symbol — and the  most famously fictional — is the red “blood stripe” on the pants of noncommissioned officers’ dress blue uniforms. Tradition holds that the stripe represents the Marine Corps blood spilled in the storming of Chapultepec Castle in 1847, during the Mexican-American War.

This account is, Conner said, “a bunch of hullabaloo.” However, he said there is also no historical evidence to support the common alternate history, which holds that the stripe originated from leftover Army artillery uniforms appropriated by a cash-strapped Marine Corps. Rather, it appears that regulations in the mid-1800s prescribed that Marine Corps officers purchase uniforms similar to those used by Army artillery, which included red piping on the pants.

Between the services in those days, he said, “You didn’t have these entirely unique uniforms like you have later on.”

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hussaf on January 03, 2013, 06:32:45 AM
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Other than the fact I'll be using "hulaboo" from now on, until I get sick of it, there are several other false or embellished Marcor stories and histories; the origins for Teuful Hunden, for example.
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OldNBC-5711 on January 03, 2013, 06:43:38 AM
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The story is accepted as TRADITION.  I don't think Yankee Doodle really called the feather in his hat, macaroni, but that is what I will be teaching my kids.  Let's keep the folk stories of our Corps alive, there is no reason to knock them down.

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The story is accepted as TRADITION.  I don't think Yankee Doodle really called the feather in his hat, macaroni, but that is what I will be teaching my kids.  Let's keep the folk stories of our Corps alive, there is no reason to knock them down.
i dont lie ... and my kids never called his feather macaroni, they called it a feather ...

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usmarinestanker on January 03, 2013, 08:56:25 AM
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I'm with NBC on this one - but the truth is nice to know and will serve me as interesting yet useless trivia to be able to say, "Why yes, I did in fact know that...." when someone brings up the topic.


And just because...... hullabaloo. You've not experienced college football until you've been to Kyle Field.
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next youre gonna tell me more than two muhweens received two medals of honor...
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seakittenkiller on January 03, 2013, 09:54:23 AM
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The story is accepted as TRADITION.  I don't think Yankee Doodle really called the feather in his hat, macaroni, but that is what I will be teaching my kids.  Let's keep the folk stories of our Corps alive, there is no reason to knock them down.

The yankee doodle song actually does have a story behind it.  Long read but here ya go http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1870/whats-the-song-yankee-doodle-all-about

Molecule Inc. on January 03, 2013, 09:57:40 AM
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next youre gonna tell me more than two muhweens received two medals of honor...
yes there were more then 2 ...

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next youre gonna tell me more than two muhweens received two medals of honor...
yes there were more then 2 ...

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But those guys all received two medals from the same incident, one from a different branch.

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next youre gonna tell me more than two muhweens received two medals of honor...
yes there were more then 2 ...

(click to show/hide)

But those guys all received two medals from the same incident, one from a different branch.
Yeah, brah, it's the Army.  They don't count  ::)
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Molecule Inc. on January 03, 2013, 10:36:09 AM
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next youre gonna tell me more than two muhweens received two medals of honor...
yes there were more then 2 ...

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But those guys all received two medals from the same incident, one from a different branch.
Yeah, brah, it's the Army.  They don't count  ::)
how many medals of honor do you have? army or otherwise? ...

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Aaryq on January 03, 2013, 10:41:37 AM
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next youre gonna tell me more than two muhweens received two medals of honor...
yes there were more then 2 ...

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But those guys all received two medals from the same incident, one from a different branch.
Yeah, brah, it's the Army.  They don't count  ::)
how many medals of honor do you have? army or otherwise? ...
Sarcasm, brah, do you speak it?  Same way that Marines are completely oblivious to the US Army's involvement in Belleau Wood, Iwo, Oki, so on and so forth or get butthurt about seeing a Hooah wear the French Forrige.
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how many medals of honor do you have? army or otherwise? ...

one...but its only compatible with PS1.  Great game though.

Molecule Inc. on January 03, 2013, 10:46:52 AM
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next youre gonna tell me more than two muhweens received two medals of honor...
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But those guys all received two medals from the same incident, one from a different branch.
Yeah, brah, it's the Army.  They don't count  ::)
how many medals of honor do you have? army or otherwise? ...
Sarcasm, brah, do you speak it?  Same way that Marines are completely oblivious to the US Army's involvement in Belleau Wood, Iwo, Oki, so on and so forth or get butthurt about seeing a Hooah wear the French Forrige.
no pendejo solo hablo espanol and english ... vete pal carajo maldito puto desgraciado buttmunch motherfucker ... ;D

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next youre gonna tell me more than two muhweens received two medals of honor...
yes there were more then 2 ...

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But those guys all received two medals from the same incident, one from a different branch.
Yeah, brah, it's the Army.  They don't count  ::)
how many medals of honor do you have? army or otherwise? ...
Sarcasm, brah, do you speak it?  Same way that Marines are completely oblivious to the US Army's involvement in Belleau Wood, Iwo, Oki, so on and so forth or get butthurt about seeing a Hooah wear the French Forrige.
no pendejo solo hablo espanol and english ... vete pal carajo maldito puto desgraciado buttmunch motherfucker ... ;D
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next youre gonna tell me more than two muhweens received two medals of honor...
yes there were more then 2 ...

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But those guys all received two medals from the same incident, one from a different branch.
Yeah, brah, it's the Army.  They don't count  ::)
how many medals of honor do you have? army or otherwise? ...
Sarcasm, brah, do you speak it?  Same way that Marines are completely oblivious to the US Army's involvement in Belleau Wood, Iwo, Oki, so on and so forth or get butthurt about seeing a Hooah wear the French Forrige.
no pendejo solo hablo espanol and english ... vete pal carajo maldito puto desgraciado buttmunch motherfucker ... ;D

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Pippin on January 03, 2013, 11:46:54 AM
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I'm with NBC on this one - but the truth is nice to know and will serve me as interesting yet useless trivia to be able to say, "Why yes, I did in fact know that...." when someone brings up the topic.


And just because...... hullabaloo. You've not experienced college football until you've been to Kyle Field.
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lol fuck the aggies and their stupid fucking uniforms

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OldNBC-5711 on January 03, 2013, 12:59:28 PM
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Cause that's enlisted jazz. If they want to make a mustang ribbon instead then ok.
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lol @ officer with a good cookie.
Why laugh?  I :heart: most Mustangs.

Cause that's enlisted jazz. If they want to make a mustang ribbon instead then ok.

and...they earned it...while they were still enlisted...
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lol fuck the aggies and their stupid fucking uniforms


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